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HIST 270 · Chinese History · Chapter 2 · Lecture 2

The Sage and His Challengers: Confucius, Mozi, Mencius and Xunzi

Background for the lecture “The Sage and His Challengers”: Confucius and the Analects, Mozi’s test of utility, Mencius and Xunzi on human nature, and Fingarette’s reading of ritual · ca. 551–ca. 215 BCE

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Act I: Rule by Example (Review Question 5)

Textbook anchor: Ebrey, Chapter 2, “The Hundred Schools of Thought” and “Confucius and the Analects” (pp. 26–27), with the box on Confucian virtues (p. 26) and the Guan Zhong biography (p. 22). The Reading Guide anchors Q5 on pp. 26–27.

The cold open (slide B) uses the textbook’s plain account of a failed career: Confucius served in Lu without gaining much influence, left, and wandered through neighboring states with students looking for a ruler who would take his advice (p. 26). The route map follows the traditional itinerary of 497–484 BCE from the Shiji, which the notes mark as tradition. Opening on failure sets up the closing irony: the man no ruler would employ became the most influential teacher in Chinese history. The textbook gives Confucius’s dates as “early historians dated” them, 551–479 BCE, and the deck keeps that hedge.

Slide F explains the Analects as sayings recorded by disciples and later followers, compiled over generations, so students treat “Confucius said” as “the Confucian tradition remembered him saying.” The Dunhuang manuscript of 890 CE on slide C shows how long the book was copied by hand. Slide G presents Confucius’s golden age, the early Zhou and the Duke of Zhou, where everyone played his part; it recaps the three founders from Chapter 1, Lecture 3. Slide H gives filial piety and the five relationships (ruler and subject, father and son, husband and wife, elder and younger brother, friend and friend), using the textbook’s box on virtues. The Li Gonglin Classic of Filial Piety scroll (about 1085 CE) is much later than Confucius, and the caption says so.

Slide I is the concept slide that the rest of the act depends on. Ren is glossed as humanity, benevolence or perfect goodness, and li as ritual and propriety, the proper form in which care is expressed. The deck’s teaching formula, “ren is the care; li is the form it takes,” is an interpretive simplification for first-year students, and the notes say so. Slide J teaches Analects 12.2 on ren and 2.3, the contrast between leading by regulations and punishments, which makes people evasive and shameless, and leading by virtue and ritual, which gives them a sense of shame and makes them good (p. 27). This is the heart of Q5’s “political philosophy,” and the slide links to the Pierian Spring, where Fingarette argues that this kind of rule works the way ritual does.

Slide K teaches the redefinition of the junzi. The word originally meant “son of a lord,” a status by birth; Confucius used it for a man of moral cultivation, contrasted with the “petty man” who thinks of profit (pp. 26–27). Students should connect this with Lecture 1’s shi: a ruler choosing officials could now ask whether a man was a junzi in the moral sense. The Wu family shrine scholars (2nd century CE) illustrate how the Han remembered the type. Slide L covers learning and the spirits: Confucius denied being born wise and said he loved the ancients and tried to learn from them (7.19), found a day and night of thinking useless compared to study (15.30), sacrificed as though the spirits were present, and talked mostly of society and politics rather than gods or ghosts (p. 27). The Zheng bronze gui recaps Chapter 1’s ancestor offerings.

Act II: Does It Help? (Review Question 6)

Textbook anchor: the Mozi section on pp. 27–28, with the bell set photograph and caption (p. 28). The Reading Guide anchors Q6 on p. 27.

Slide P introduces Mozi (ca. 480–390 BCE) as a well-read man from among the master craftsmen rather than the aristocracy (p. 27); the modern portrait is labeled as imagined. The deck presents “concern for everyone” (jian ai, often translated “universal love”) as the opening move: giving other people’s families and states the concern one gives one’s own, with Mozi’s two arguments (whom you would trust with your family, and the sage kings’ example) and his strong support for the merit principle (p. 27). Confucians heard it as an attack on the graded love that starts at home. Slide Q is the concept slide for utility: judge any idea or custom by whether it benefits people. The Mozi’s own standards (enriching the poor, increasing the population, bringing order) are beyond the textbook and stay in the notes; “utility” is the Reading Guide’s word and is defined on the slide, with a note that the term “utilitarian” is a modern Western comparison.

Slide R applies the test to the two Confucian practices Mozi attacked most sharply: elaborate funerals with three years of mourning, which wasted wealth and kept people from work, and ceremonial music, which cost labor and metal and fed no one. The bells of Marquis Yi of Zeng (433 BCE) show exactly the kind of investment Mozi had in mind; the caption corrects the textbook’s wording (see Corrections). Slide S covers the Mohist opposition to aggressive war and their organized teams of siege defenders, who went to help the attacked; it recaps Lecture 1’s siege slide. The Mozi includes technical chapters on defensive engineering, beyond the textbook, which explain why the Xinzheng rammed-earth wall makes a good image. Slide T shows how the argument came out (p. 28): the Mohist school declined and lost its identity; Confucians absorbed the merit principle and the criticism of extravagance; Mencius borrowed Mozi’s arguments against aggression; but Confucians rejected equal treatment of everyone as unnatural and refused to put ritual and music to a utility test. Mencius’s polemic that Mohist love “acknowledges no father” (Mencius 3B.9) is a good extension, beyond the textbook.

Act III: Is Human Nature Good? (Review Question 7)

Textbook anchor: the Mencius section (pp. 28–29) and the Xunzi section (pp. 29–30), with the inlaid flask caption (p. 30). The Reading Guide anchors Q7 on pp. 29–30.

Slide X defines “human nature” (xing) as what people are like before teaching shapes them, so students see that Mencius and Xunzi share the question while disagreeing on the answer. Slide Y stages Mencius 1A.1, the meeting with King Hui of Liang (Wei), where the king asks what will profit his state and Mencius rejects the word “profit” in favor of humaneness and right; the textbook uses the passage to show Mencius’s view of benevolent government, light taxes and opposition to war for gain (pp. 28–29). The Ming woodblock series on Mencius’s life supplies the image. Slide Z gives the child-at-the-well argument (2A.6): anyone would feel alarm and compassion, not for any advantage, which proves the presence of the “sprouts” of goodness. Slide AA gives the debate with Gaozi (6A.2), in which Gaozi compares nature to water that flows east or west as channeled, and Mencius answers that water always flows downward, as human nature tends toward good.

Slide AB turns to Xunzi: people are born with desires and envy, and goodness is the product of conscious effort, as a warped board must be steamed and pressed straight or metal ground on a whetstone (p. 29). Slide AC presents the political conclusion: Xunzi’s image of the ruler as a boat and the people as water that can carry or capsize it, and his insistence that Heaven does not respond to prayer, so rain after a rain dance is simply rain (p. 29). The slide recaps the Mandate of Heaven from Chapter 1, Lecture 3, because Xunzi keeps the idea that rulers can lose their people while stripping Heaven of agency. Slide AD explains why Xunzi nonetheless kept ritual and music: they shape desires and give feelings proper expression, and their value lies in what they do for people, not in any effect on spirits (p. 30). It links to the Pierian Spring, where Fingarette’s question of whether ritual is sincere returns.

The Pierian Spring: Fingarette, Mencius on Heaven, Guan Zhong

The required independent-study section opens with the course’s standard divider wording and contains twelve story slides, each ending with a review-question box that links back to its checkpoint. Following the arc-plan decision of 2026-10-29, all of the Fingarette material from the archived “sacred as secular” page and the old Lecture 2 Pierian Spring is here, rewritten as a ten-slide sequence for Q5:

  1. AI, the puzzle: is Confucianism a religion? Fingarette (Confucius: The Secular as Sacred, 1972) argued that the question assumes a Western template of creed, deity and afterlife.
  2. AJ, li as performance: ritual turns ordinary acts into shared, meaningful performances.
  3. AK, the handshake: Fingarette’s own example of meaning living in a recognized form, illustrated with the Promontory Summit handshake of 1869.
  4. AL, everyday li: family and social life as the arena of cultivation.
  5. AM, ritual as “magic”: Fingarette’s provocative term for the way a correct ritual act changes social reality without force.
  6. AN, sincerity: the charge that ritual is empty form and the answer that form can train sincerity (compare Xunzi on slide AD).
  7. AO, religious in a broader sense: holiness located in human community.
  8. AP, comparison table: a deliberately rough contrast with a common Abrahamic pattern, labeled as a simplification.
  9. AQ, limits: critics, notably Benjamin Schwartz, who argued that Fingarette underplays Confucius’s inner moral life, Heaven (tian) and the spirits.
  10. AR, modern rituals: graduations, oaths and apologies as secular-sacred acts students already know.

Two further slides finish textbook stories: AS, Mencius on Heaven speaking through the people and a true king arising every five hundred years (p. 29), for Q7; and AT, Confucius defending Guan Zhong against a disciple (Analects 14.18, quoted in the Guan Zhong biography, p. 22), for Q5, with a recap link to Lecture 1’s Guan Zhong slide. The online study notes stress that the Fingarette sequence is one modern philosopher’s interpretation, not the textbook’s, and every slide carries an “outside the textbook” tag.

How the Three Questions Connect

The lecture’s single thread is Confucius’s claim that order comes from moral example, and each segment tests it. Q5 states the claim and its foundations. Q6 attacks it from outside: Mozi accepts the goal of order but measures Confucian means by benefit and finds them wasteful. Q7 defends it from inside, but the defenders split over whether the example awakens goodness already present (Mencius) or imposes goodness on raw material (Xunzi). Students who can place each thinker on two axes, where goodness comes from and what the state should therefore do, have the lecture’s argument. The closing slide sets up Lecture 3, where the Daoists reject the whole project and the Legalists, two of them Xunzi’s students in tradition, keep only his pessimism.

Corrections and Cautions

Notes

Page references are to the course PDF of Ebrey’s Chapter 2 (pp. 20–35) and may differ slightly from print editions. The travel itinerary of Confucius, the Marquis Yi of Zeng tomb, the Mohist defensive chapters, Xunzi’s chapter number and dates, and all Fingarette material come from beyond the textbook, and the deck’s notes mark each one. Image sources and licenses for every slide are recorded in the Chinese-history image_sources.md file under “Chapter 2, Lecture 2.”

Suggested Reading for Deeper Preparation

Herbert Fingarette, Confucius: The Secular as Sacred (1972). The short, provocative book behind the Pierian Spring.

Benjamin I. Schwartz, The World of Thought in Ancient China (1985). The fullest survey of the classical thinkers, with the best-known critique of Fingarette.

A. C. Graham, Disputers of the Tao: Philosophical Argument in Ancient China (1989). Indispensable on Mozi, the Mohists and the human nature debate.

Edward Slingerland, trans., Confucius: Analects, with Selections from Traditional Commentaries (2003). A readable translation with commentary on each passage.

E. Bruce Brooks and A. Taeko Brooks, The Original Analects (1998). The strongest case for reading the Analects as layered over centuries.

Ian Johnston, trans., The Mozi: A Complete Translation (2010). Includes the defensive engineering chapters.

Bryan W. Van Norden, trans., Mengzi: With Selections from Traditional Commentaries (2008). The standard teaching translation of Mencius.

Eric L. Hutton, trans., Xunzi: The Complete Text (2014). The complete modern translation; chapter 23 is “Human Nature Is Bad.”

Philip J. Ivanhoe and Bryan W. Van Norden, eds., Readings in Classical Chinese Philosophy (2nd ed., 2005). Convenient selections from all four thinkers.